EDIT: This didn't come out great in Reddit so here is the link to my Word Doc to read it there where the Bold makes it easier to see http://ift.tt/2DIxHie a long time I have been hearing fans say that to many Jedi survived Order 66. Now for some of those fans I think anyone besides Yoda and Obi-wan surviving is to many, or that at least every Jedi has to be dead by ANH (which is where a lot of the Kanan and Ezra must die people come in) so as to not ruins Luke’s story or make Yoda and Obi-wan out to be liars. Personally I’ve never had a problem with how many Jedi survived Order 66 but I did start to wonder just how many were there?How many survived? How? For How long? It's easy enough to say X survived but without knowing what happened to them we don’t really get the whole story. Especially when it seemed like most of them were created just for Vader to kill or for the RPG games and never showed up again. In fact that’s something that is happening in the NEU right now. The last two arcs in the Vader comic have been about him fighting Jedi who survived and the next arc is taking him to Mon Calamari to kill another jedi.Now in a way this list is not complete, but its not complete because the writers both in Legend and the NEU don’t want it complete. Having an exact number of Jedi that survived means you can only have that exact number of stories to tell. So we will never know how many Jedi were on the list Vader was given in his comic. Or how many Jedi children were with K’Kruhk or the Almas Academy or Plett’s Well. But in a way it doesn’t matter. I’m only going to count those who were named and mentioned because those are the ones that affected the story in some way. The rest aren’t important enough to get named and are just there for background. We don’t know if it was one or fifty. We don’t know if they lived, were killed by imperials, gave up being a jedi, or became inquisitors. Heck we don’t even know how many of K’Kruhk’s younglings made it or what year he and T’ra Saa joined Luke’s Academy other than its after Fate of the Jedi but before Legacy. So it's useless counting them.I also didn’t count a few Jedi who disappeared long before the Clone Wars or even the Prequel Trilogy. Celeste Morne’s story has nothing to do with the Purge or Jedi Survivors. Heck she isn’t even awake for most of a day. Same for Ikrit who went into hibernation 300 years before the Clone Wars. Ood Bnar gave his life 4000 years before the movies but because his ghost pops up in Dark Empire he is counted. Nor did I count the children of Jedi who were born after the Purge or self trained force users or users trained by former Jedi (So Kanan is on the list but not Ezra)Before I get into the numbers and percents I’m going to say that while I don’t expect the NEU to have as many Jedi survivors as Legends going forward because of not having as many RPG campaign books (do they even have any?) I still expect we will see a lot. People like the Dark Times comic because its interesting seeing Jedi have to hide and try to survive. People like Purge and the Vader comics because well it's Vader fighting Jedi. Luke getting to meet surviving Jedi is an interesting idea.So numbers the part everyone is here for. I will do Legends first then NEU/Canon. Now I’m going to be breaking these numbers up a bit so we can see. First we are going to look at simply how many Jedi survived per era and see how that number is whittled down. This is the simplest break down of the numbers though it doesn’t give us a good view of what is happening to the people. This is also the only list where I will keep counting those who gave up being a Jedi or became Inquisitors as part of Jedi. In the other lists they will be their own groups.Purge Survivors:In 19BBY at the start of the Purge their are 190 Jedi alive. That is 1.9% of the Jedi Order. You could sell the Purge as Anti-Jedi hand soap with that level of germ killing. So while It sounds like a lot of people it's only a small fraction of the order. Of the 190 survivors 49 ( 25.79%) are Masters, 67 (35.26%) are Knights, 44 ( 23.16%) are Padawans, 20 (10.53 %) are Younglings, and 10 (5.26%) are Jedi Service Corps members.By 17 BBY that number has been cut down to 30 Masters, 46 Knights, 39 Padawans, 20 Younglings, and 10 Jedi Service Corps Members. 45 Survivors are killed in the first two years. This ends the first stage of the purge. From 17BBY to 1 ABY Vader and the Inquisitors would hunt the jedi down off and on but they were no longer seen as a threat by Palpatine.Between 17 BBY and 0 ABY the number of Purge survivors fell to 21 Masters, 33 Knights, 37 Padawans, 18 Younglings, and 10 Jedi Service Corps Members still alive for a total of 119 Purge survivors around at the start of EP 4. But remember this is just survivors and that number includes those who gave up being a jedi, became inquisitors, were not even in the galaxy (cough Verge cough) or disappeared into the depths of space never to be seen again.From 0ABY to 4ABY we have 21 Masters, 28 Knights, 29 Padawans, 17 Younglings, and 9 Jedi Service Corps members. Or 104 Survivors at the end of the movies. But you have to remember that unlike in the NEU the Empire didn’t fold a year after Endor and fighting would go on for a while. Not to mention that Luke won’t even start training Jedi until 11ABY and the Empire won’t be completely gone until 19ABY after years of fighting and 8 years of cold war. So let's see what we have by the treaty in 19 ABY. We have 18 Masters, 21 Knights, 26 Padawans, 17 Younglings, and 6 Jedi Service Corps members.TLDR for Purge Survivors section[Purge + 0] 190 survivors 49 ( 25.79%) are Masters, 67 (35.26%) are Knights, 44 ( 23.16%) are Padawans, 20 (10.53 %) are Younglings, and 10 (5.26%) are Jedi Service Corps members.19-18BBY 30 Masters, 46 Knights, 39 Padawans, 20 Younglings, and 10 Jedi Service Corps Members.17-0 BBY 21 Masters, 33 Knights, 37 Padawans, 18 Younglings, and 10 Jedi Service Corps Members0-4 ABY 21 Masters, 28 Knights, 29 Padawans, 17 Younglings, and 9 Jedi Service Corps members.5-19 ABY 18 Masters, 21 Knights, 26 Padawans, 17 Younglings, and 6 Jedi Service Corps members.So as we can see it seems like a big number just going by survivors. But it's a false number that doesn’t give the whole story. What we are looking up next though raises a question. What is a Jedi? Is Ahsoka still a jedi if she left the order but still follows the ideas and teachings of the Order? Was Kanan a Jedi when he was drinking himself to death? What about the years when he was fighting with the Alliance but not using his saber or the force? And heck one person on the list failed out of the Academy and left to open a martial arts school before the Clone Wars but is still technically a survivor. This next section is looking at what happened to them over the years. Who turned into an Inquisitor, who gave up being a Jedi, and who decided to fight against the Empire.Survivor's Lives:So we said that at the End of the purge their were 190 survivors, 49 ( 25.79%) are Masters, 67 (35.26%) are Knights, 44 ( 23.16%) are Padawans, 20 (10.53 %) are Younglings, and 10 (5.26%) are Jedi Service Corps members. Lets see what happens to the ones that were still left alive.[Masters] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 3 Masters survived due to not being a part of the Order, 3 became Inquisitors, 26 were killed by Darth Vader or the Empire, 11 lived in hiding or were in a form of stasis, 4 Survived by hiding with K’Kruhk or the Altisian Jedi, 2 fought with the Rebel AllianceSo by 0 ABY only 2 Masters are still claiming to be Jedi and Helping the Rebellion (Rahm Kota, Qu Rahn) . And of the 49 Survivors only 4 will join Luke's Academy after the war (T’ra Saa, K’Kruhk, Aqinos, and Winslau Da’k’s Jedi Master)[Knights] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 12 Knights left the Order or were in stasis before the war, 7 Knights became Inquisitors or Dark Jedi working for Palpatine, 29 Were killed by Vader, the Empire, or commited suicide, 12 Give up being a Jedi and go into hiding, 5 Help the Rebellion but not as Jedi. 2 Help the Rebellion as a JediSo by 0ABY 2 Jedi are still claiming to be Knights and helping the Rebellion (Unidentified Jedi (Ironarms), Corwin Shelvay). And of the 67 Survivors 5 will join Luke’s Academy (Dragitel, Vima-Da-Boda, Ilum, Luxum, Corwin Shelvay)[Padawans] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 3 Padawans left the Order or were in stasis before the war, 5 Padawans became Inquisitors or Dark Jedi working for Palpatine, 18 Padawans were killed by Vader, the Empire, or Bounty Hunters, 16 Give up being a Jedi and live as civilians since they were not actively hunted, 2 Help the Rebellion,So by 0 ABY their are no jedi still claiming to be Padawans. And of the 45 survivors 0-1 Joins Luke’s Order (Chase Piru is part of K’khruk’s Jedi who may or may not have joined after 40ABY. We really don’t know.)[Younglings] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 3 Younglings left or were kicked out of the Order before the war, 2 Younglings became Inquisitors or worked for Palpatine, 4 Younglings were killed by Vader or the Empire, 2 Younglings gave up being Jedi and lived as civilians, And 9 Younglings went into hiding at Master K’Kruhk’s Hidden Temple on Arkinnea.So by 0 ABY Their are 0 Jedi still claiming to be younglings. The Younglings with K’Kruhk are never mentioned again outside of the Dark Times comic. And Nichos grew up as a civilian and only has faint memories of Plett’s Well. And of the 20 survivors 1 Joins Luke’s Order ( Nichos Marr)[Jedi Service Corps] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 3 Jedi Service Corps members left or were kicked out of the Order before the War, 4 JSC members became Inquisitors or worked for Palpatine, 1 JSC member was killed by Vader and the Empire, 2 JSC members left the order to live as civilians,So by 0 ABY their is 1 Jedi Service Corps member still claiming to be a Jedi (Warl Thimbus). And of the 10 Jedi Service Corps survivors 0 join Luke Skywalker’s AcademyTLDR For Survivor’s Lives Section:2 Masters, 2 Jedi Knights, 0 Padawan, 0 Younglings 1 Jedi Service Corp Member still claiming to be jedi. OR out of the 190 survivors only 5 (2.63%) are left. Or to go even larger, of the 10000 jedi only 0.05% are left active.4 Masters, 5 Knights, 0 Padawans, 1 Youngling, 0 Jedi Service Corps Members will join Luke’s Academy. Or out of the 190 survivors only 10 (5.26%) are left. Or to go even larger, of the 10000 jedi only 0.1% are left active.0.05-0.1% of all Jedi in the Galaxy will be left alive and active by the time the Empire is defeated. 0.1 is an anomaly, a rounding error, a speck of inconsequential dust compared to the might of the Empire. This is a Empire of a 1000 systems and a million planets. What is 0.5% of an order compared to that?Fun Theory and how many Jedi did Vader Kill Section:I sort of brushed up against this in my opening statement but its always been a theory of mine that most of the Jedi who survived were just invented for RPG games for players to meet and interact with (since people love Jedi contrary to what some think) or were just invented for Vader to kill. And that most of those created never appeared anywhere outside their main work discounting being mentioned in passing or referenced in a lore book. As in they were never an active character in another work outside their own.So my main thesis isMost Jedi survivors come from either the SW RPG, TCG, or Galaxies MMO or were created for Vader to kill (Purge, Dark Times, Rise of Darth Vader). And that most Jedi survivors never appear at at later date past when they are last seen. Meaning if they are active in 18 BBY but don’t show up at Luke's academy they are as good as dead or retired. So let's see how we do.RPG/MMO/TCG: Created 83 Jedi or 43.68 % of all Jedi Survivors. 5 Jedi or 6.02% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.General Books and Movies: 34 Jedi or 17.89% of all Jedi Survivors. 21 Jedi or 61.76% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.Vader/Purge/Dark Times: Created 32 Jedi or 16.84 % of all Jedi Survivors. 1 Jedi or 6.25% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.General Comics: Created 22 Jedi or 11.58% of all Jedi Survivors. 12 Jedi or 54.55% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.General Games: Created 9 Jedi or 4.74% of all Jedi Survivors. 1 Jedi or 11.11% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.Dark Empire Comic: Created 6 Jedi or 3.16 % of all Jedi Survivors. 4 Jedi or 66.67% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.Lore Books: Created 4 Jedi or 2.11 % of all Jedi Survivors. 0 Jedi or 0% of the Jedi it created was mentioned in works outside its series.YTLDR for Theory idea:43.68 % of all survivors come from RPG’s, 17.89 % from books, 16.84% were created for Vader to kill, and everything else combined is 21.59% In order of the listed series 5/21/1/12/1/4/0 Jedi Appeared in other works. Perhaps I should have broken the Books and Movies into separate grouping.And Vader’s Kill count is? Of the 116 dead Jedi Vader killed 32 or 27 % of them. Most of them being killed between 19-17BBY.Canon Section:So this section is much shorter than the other for the obvious reason that Legends can run for the Senate if it wanted to (Min age 30-35) while the NEU/Canon is just entering Pre-school (4 yrs). Now I expect over the years for this section to grow dramatically. Possibly not as large or as fast as Legends due to the lack of RPG guides but it will still end up containing at least a hundred names. In fact a new name will have to be added in a few weeks when the next Vader arc comes out. Also some of these names will change (Please don’t let Kanan’s change!!) as stories progress and new stories are written.You also might notice I’m counting Ahsoka here and not in Legends. This is due to TCW being the last thing produced in Legends so we don’t really get her story. Besides I’m more than happy to consider it solely a NEU thing even if it does mean giving up Ahsoka. I am also no counting Ben, Yoda, or Vader himself since they have to be around because of appearing in the OT. Which is I guess a lot of peoples problems with Jedi survivors. They didn’t appear or were not mentioned in the OT therefore they all have to be dead or they ruin the movie.Purge Survivors:In 19BBY at the start of the Purge their are 18 named Jedi confirmed alive. That is 0.18% of the Jedi Order. Of the 18 survivors 4 ( 22.22%) are Masters, 13 (72.22%) are Knights, 1( 5.56%) are PadawansBy 17 BBY that number has been cut down to 2 Masters, 12 Knights, 1 Padawans. 3 Survivors are killed in the first two years. This ends the first stage of the purge. From 17BBY to 1 ABY Vader and the Inquisitors would hunt the jedi down off and on but they were no longer seen as a threat by Palpatine.Between 17 BBY and 0 ABY the number of Purge survivors fell to 1 Masters, 4 Knights, 1 Padawans still alive for a total of 6 Purge survivors around at the start of EP 4. But remember this is just survivors and that number includes those who gave up being a jedi, became inquisitors or disappeared into the depths of space never to be seen again.Purge Survivors TLDR;[Purge + 0] 18 survivors 4 ( 22.22%) are Masters, 13 (72.22%) are Knights, 1 ( 5.56%) are Padawans,19-18BBY 2 Masters, 12 Knights, 1 Padawans17-0 BBY 1 Masters, 4 Knights, 1 PadawansSurvivor's Lives:So we said that at the End of the purge their were 18 survivors 4 ( 22.22%) are Masters, 13 (72.22%) are Knights, 1 ( 5.56%) are Padawans, Lets see what happens to the ones that were still left alive. Also we have no knowledge about them meeting Luke so I will leave that part out.[Masters] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 3 were killed by Darth Vader or the Empire, 1 lived in hiding (Quinlin Vos)[Knights] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 1 Knights left the Order or were in stasis before the war, 6 Knights became Inquisitors or Dark Jedi working for Palpatine, 4 Were killed by Vader, the Empire, or the Inquisitors, 2 Give up being a Jedi and go into hiding (Ahsoka Tano, Kayce Beradun, Uvell)[Padawans] Between 19 BBY and 19 ABY: 1 Padawan gives up being a Jedi untill he meets a rebel operative and starts to help the Rebellion (Kannan)TLDR of the Survivor’s Lives section:1 Masters, 3 Jedi Knights, 1 Padawan still claiming to be jedi. OR out of the 18 survivors only 5 (27.78%) are left. Or to go even larger, of the 10000 jedi only 0.05% are left active. Hey look, we ended up with the same numbers as in the Legends groupStar Wars Rebels: Created 5 Jedi or 27.78 % of all Jedi Survivors.Books and Movies: Created 5 Jedi or 27.78 % of all Jedi Survivors.Star Wars Uprising: Created 4 Jedi or 22.22 % of all Jedi Survivors.Dark Lord of the Sith: Created 3 Jedi or 16.67 % of all Jedi Survivors.The Clone Wars: Created 1 Jedi or 5.56 % of all Jedi Survivors.And that is the end of my List. Here is a link to my excel sheet if you want to read some more about each of the jedi or just look at my pretty colour coding. http://ift.tt/2EjdPDu I also have a Word Doc I might make to fill in some more information but It doesn’t have anything but [Name: [Rank] [Background] [How did they survive] [ Current Status] [Date Last Seen] [Created For] [Appeared in other works] ] Copied 190 times. So I will leave it up to you to discuss the numbers and what they mean. Personally it reinforces my belief that the number of survivors isn’t a problem. In legends and canon its the same 0.5-1% of the entire order making it to the OT. You can’t find a germ cleaner that does better than that. And as for Legends only a few members joined Luke’s academy and it was all well after it was established and up and running. via /r/StarWars http://ift.tt/2Fq7FAL
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